Posts by NecessaryEvil

Unfortunately, as specified in the update to the "Application Notes" topic, nOSF members do not share the same privileges as full OSF members. This includes voting rights.

Quote from "tioga @ Tue Mar 02

Point of order: this was posted Jun 26, 2009

Point of order: you were kicked out Jun 25, 2009

Just for the record, you were kicked out before you made this topic.

Thanks for not begging for votes anymore.

Now you will not be warned again about the forum spam. Keep it up and you're banned, as I'm tired of deleting your posts.

It looks like I haven't bothered to keep count, once again. Anyways if that's ten votes for you and no objections, then welcome aboard =nOSF=RobTheRobot!

he got kicked out on account of gayness

What? Didn't you have an application? I just voted for you.

No, I'm not a fan of the rank system, as that would be much more difficult to figure out than a stupid voting system.

Right now Rob has something like 9 or 10 yes's and 0 no's, and toga has fewer yes's and many more no's. Is it fair to say that both have equal chances of getting in?

I can see that this system is totally flawed the way it is now. In terms of a vote's value, I have considered making those with more posts count more than those with fewer, but that would not be fair, either.

Let's look at some examples. If my memory serves me correct, Tanktop recently voted "no" in an application (idk for who). Tanktop has very few posts, but took the time to login, just to voice his opinion on that one application. Tanktop is in TS often and plays just as frequently, so to me, his vote should be worth 100 votes by holy and arson who both hardly play Crysis and if they do join TS, they typically add nothing of value (the same is probably true about the forums).

Today I was thinking that if you can receive the required amount of votes (10 currently), then you can use the =nOSF= tag during the trial period, but to gain full membership, you'd have to convince some number of voters to change from "no" to "yes". Then again, why even allow a member to put a fake OSF tag in their name at all if there are so many members against them joining? I'm really not sure what to do right now.

If my idea above is crap, then we need someone to start thinking outside of the box in order to come up with a voting system that actually works.

I was saying that the damage has already been done. The idea of making applicants join us in TS is so that we can see their true colors. I have seen yours.

Yeah but 7 people said "well, i guess its ok if you join" and the other 7 said "FUCK NO"

I've edited everyone's post who has voted, by adding a "Yes" or "No" at the end. I think icomrade has not clearly specified which way he was voting.

I count 7 Yes to 7 No

Sorry tioga, even if 3 more "Yes's" were received, I don't see how you could join with 7 "No's".

Unless you can get some of your "No" voters to change their vote by convincing them that you're not a faggot, feel free to try again later.

"I'm not sure yet" does not count as "No". Can we have an unbiased counter, or shall I do it myself?

Someone start counting the "No's". We cannot ignore them.

Well what did Obama say? You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig?

Hi. I'm looking forward to seeing you in-game and hearing from you.

Next weekend I'll try to stay up extra late for you, Rob. 5am here is noon there. How does that sound?

If the application process is truly one in which every vote counts equally, then "No's" should really be weighted the same as "Yes's". Ripley is right; getting 10 "Yes" votes shouldn't be worth a damn if you also got 20 "No's". Those members who vote "No" take the same amount of time and participation to voice their opinion as those who vote "Yes".

The only problem with implementing this new rule is that it is unfair for the rule to take effect on applicants after they've submitted their application. Let's not beat around the bush here, we all know I'm talking about tioga's application in which he got a considerable amount of "No" votes. If we were to allow the Yes/No voting to take effect, but not apply to current applicants, it would not resolve the specific issue that it was created for.

Unfortunately, we can't really welcome a new member aboard after 10 "Yes's" if they received just as many "No's" (or even a few "No's").

Sorry Hazer, but I'm no longer undecided. I cannot vote yes for someone who says "Hell yeah!" after every kill.

Yes, it could, too bad it's too confusing. Maybe an example would help?